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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 6, 2009 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

i was at that show too and i'll never forget the mike=throwing either - felt bad for the guy - nasty cold/throat issue - i know the feeling - nothing he could have done about it other than, as you mentioned NOT SING!! :)

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: May 6, 2009 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

88....rough year for vocals

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 6, 2009 7:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

one of the three hartford shows in spring 88. i believe it was either the first or last of them - memory is not that good at recall. black peter was played two nights/shows in a row if memory serves.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 6, 2009 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

Toss-up between 1973 and 1977.

Listen to any "Birdsong" from 1973 then compare it w/almost any year after and you can see how he was able to hold a note and stretch out a sweet-sounding vocal in '73 so much better.

By '77 he's a little less able to nail the high notes but a greater maturity has come into his voice as well, and overall it's still pretty sweet. Nice example is the "Comes a Time" from 5/9/77

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 6, 2009 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

And some songs might be even more poignant in the 80's or later -- after hard times livin' the "good" life. "Comes a Times" on

http://www.archive.org/details/gd85-06-14.sbd.carman.13747.sbeok.shnf

seems more appropriate to personal and societal issues of the time. And maybe it's just my case, where a cloud of bitterness descended -- or maybe despite the unevenness I just like the band's 80's Tigerish sound better.

It could be that I'm just not a fan of the later Keith years that lack the intensity of the 60's and the ponderous experiments of 72-75.

But the last part of 5/9/77 is cool.

Oddly I thought that JGB played "Comes A Time" but this doesn't show it:
http://www.thejerrysite.com/songs/list?letter=C

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 6, 2009 3:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

I can't recall JGB ever doing Comes a Time.

Gonna check out that '85 version, though...I saw a ton of shows in '85 but generally regard it as a pretty poor year for the band and Jerry in particular.

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 6, 2009 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

I probably have a Warfield show mixed up for JGB.

And I wouldn't say that 85 is better than 77, esp May-June!, just some variety of the wine might age for different flavor.


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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 6, 2009 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

indeed, if there's one complaint I have about '77 (and it's a small complaint) it's that there's not a whole lot of variety set-list wise.

They were a bit more adventerous in '85 (Walkin the Dog, Big Boss Man pop up every now and then)...but overall, tough to stack up the wheezing, about-to-go-coma '85 Jerry against his '77 counterpart.

*Not a bad version, esp. for '85...what Jer lacks in vocal power he makes up for in effort...you can tell he's really into it...also, I was not aware of this show overall...VERY cool set list...Dew up top to start 2nd set...I also like the China Doll and Smokestack heading into Comes a Time. Thanks! for the recommendation*

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 6, 2009 4:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

It's a good little set. I liked the band's sound and harmonious performances quite a bit after an encounter with the show on tape at Mt Shasta. I like the smaller things too, like the balaphon, the space, and touches like the echo added at "before I hit the ground" in China Doll.

Part of me couldn't understand why good but not elite performances like this didn't prove GD was good. Another of part of me was glad though because getting tickets could be nerve wracking, even as so many people hated them!

I think I have decided that for me 85, 89, 90 is better than 77, on the whole. That's odd but then I still prefer '68-75. Me, me, me, I tweet.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: May 6, 2009 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

Get a room.

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 6, 2009 9:00pm
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Go to yours, you crackling hen.

You'll never hear surf music again, unless you get your pinky machine off the speed dial.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: May 14, 2009 10:04am
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me

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 14, 2009 10:23am
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plagarist!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: May 14, 2009 2:34pm
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Fair Use Doctrine:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/fair_use.html

3 references!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 14, 2009 2:36pm
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Nicely done.

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 7, 2009 10:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

The first show at Hartford was the one where is voice is totally gone. Felt bad for the guy playing on Easter Sunday instrumentally beautiful but the voice just would not work. The next night is a bit better but doing the lyrically heavy TOG was a bad call to say the least. I think the 2 Black peters were in Worcester if memory serves.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 7, 2009 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcias Best Vocal Year

you are right!!! i almost forgot that was Easter. i remember sitting at Easter dinner/lunch, getting up, my parents asking me where i was going, my response: dead show - their response: rolling of the eyes :)



(i think your memory serves correctly on the two worcester black peters too - though my memory "doesnt serve" - lol)